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Imperator Jora'h Hedion University	Posted - 2008.03.14 20:42:00 - [1] Edited by: Imperator Jora''h on 14/03/2008 20:43:54 I do not see anything particularly interesting about the story except trying to make it something more inflammatory with OMG! US Soldier! Really...this is an old, old story that probably plays it self out several times a day somewhere in the world. Girl dumps guy, guy spazzes and threatens girl, police chase guy. The details may differ but the overarching story is the same and goes back ages. Nothing new. I am NOT saying it is ok for guys to do this...far from it. But about as newsworthy on an international scale as the weather in Katmandu is to me. EDIT: Damn...type too slow but good to see others of the same mind. -------------------------------------------------- "Of course," said my grandfather, pulling a gun from his belt as he stepped from the Time Machine, "there's no paradox if I shoot you!"
Imperator Jora'h Hedion University	Posted - 2008.03.14 21:23:00 - [2] Originally by: Kyanzes Originally by: Sosus Red point was that by putting this on eve-o forums...with the title US Soldier... the OP was obviously trying to say something like "OMG look at the US soldiers" this craziness perpetuated by this guy happens everyday all over the world. If it wasnt a US soldier would it even be posted to the forum? I doubt it. What? You mean it should not have been posted because it was a US soldier? Try to convince me that US home patriots would not have posted it if it was a german soldier in the US. Please don't troll here. I wouldn't have if that is all there was to the story. Well...actually I would have since a German Soldier on American soil running around with an assault weapon would be surprising since there are no German military bases in the United States I am aware of but then of course THAT would be the interesting part of the story...not that he lost his **** over a girl. -------------------------------------------------- "Of course," said my grandfather, pulling a gun from his belt as he stepped from the Time Machine, "there's no paradox if I shoot you!"
Imperator Jora'h Hedion University	Posted - 2008.03.14 21:45:00 - [3] Originally by: Kyanzes When I posted the thread about the F117 airplane being withdrawn from duty no one came forth warning me that I sholdn't do that. It's US stuff after all, not something that should concern me. I don't think anyone thought of it as a US thing except peripherally. It was just a cool plane thing which (not surprisingly) most of us here dig. Could have been a story on a MiG getting pulled from service and we would like it (I would anyway). -------------------------------------------------- "Of course," said my grandfather, pulling a gun from his belt as he stepped from the Time Machine, "there's no paradox if I shoot you!"
Imperator Jora'h Hedion University	Posted - 2008.03.14 23:25:00 - [4] Originally by: Sosus Red people with felonies are not allowed to serve and I do believe everyone does deserve a second chance. There is always the French Foreign Legion for those blokes (assuming the Legion is still about...not sure actually). -------------------------------------------------- "Of course," said my grandfather, pulling a gun from his belt as he stepped from the Time Machine, "there's no paradox if I shoot you!"
Imperator Jora'h Hedion University	Posted - 2008.03.15 23:01:00 - [5] Originally by: Aaron Ravenwood As to guns and democracy ... our democracy was created back in the day BECAUSE we all had guns. Asking us to give them all up now ... well ... maybe you're right and we don't need them ... but ... if you are wrong ... and we give them all up ... we won't be getting them back. The FACT that we do all have the right to own weapons pretty much insures that we will keep our freedom. This is wrong. The image of the US having as its only defense from the ebil British a well armed populace is nothing like how it was. Gun ownership was rather low back then. Guns were expensive and unless you needed one for survival out in the wilderness you simply didn't bother. Nor did the Founding Fathers see gun ownership as a ward against the government. Read the Constitution again. They specifically note gun ownership in the realm of having a militia. Back then there was not really a standing, professional army. They saw this as a means to have an armed force that would be somewhat easy to call upon if needed to defend the nation...not so the people could defend themselves from the government. -------------------------------------------------- "Of course," said my grandfather, pulling a gun from his belt as he stepped from the Time Machine, "there's no paradox if I shoot you!"
Imperator Jora'h Hedion University	Posted - 2008.03.16 02:28:00 - [6] Edited by: Imperator Jora''h on 16/03/2008 02:30:30 Originally by: Arron S Edited by: Arron S on 15/03/2008 23:29:44 Edited by: Arron S on 15/03/2008 23:25:40 The US did not Save Europe alone in WW2 you nub, the USSR helped a lot, and the USSR had a more difficult battle then the US and other Allies did. The US have the credit to saving the Pacific. You should Also read about the Battle of Britten, the UK was able to hold off the Germans, and prevent them from landing in the UK in 1940. The fact is Germany could not have been beaten without US intervention. It was not so much US troops as it was US production that made the difference (read up on Liberty Ships for an example...I forget the German general but one commented that he was floored at how many ships we produced...they could not sink them fast enough). Even the Soviets benefited massively from US aid (we provided scads of trucks and food for them allowing them to focus on tanks and troops). If it were not for US aid to Britain the Brits almost certainly would have been starved out. And while the Brits won the Battle of Britain on their own all that meant was Germany could not invade as they had planned to but there was no way Britain would have been able to re-take Europe back from Germany on its own. With the US in the war it forced Germany to fight a two-front war. If Germany had all its might to focus on the Soviets they likely would have prevailed there too (they almost did as it was early on). Citing the number of people killed in Russia versus US soldiers killed is also bogus. Stalin had purged the military so when the war started they had crap all for generals (really, really horrible) and were woefully undersupplied. What the Soviets did have was numbers and they tossed their troops into the grinder with abandon. It was frankly appalling but all they could do at first. By no means can the US say they did it all. Every country paid a horrible price and all contributed in a big way. But to suggest the US was just meh...thanks for showing up but not necessary is patently wrong. -------------------------------------------------- "Of course," said my grandfather, pulling a gun from his belt as he stepped from the Time Machine, "there's no paradox if I shoot you!"

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